At some point, UFC president Dana White is going to burn out, and the league will be looking for a new leader. Sonnen would be a solid choice, if not for boss, then for consigliere to whatever exec is hired. In his latest interview on Submission Radio, The Gangster from Oregon discusses the relative popularity of the UFC’s two biggest stars, Conor McGregor and Ronda Rousey.

Sonnen began by discussing whether or not McGregor’s loss to Diaz at UFC 196 will lead to a drop in his drawing power.

No, it definitely won’t,” said Sonnen. “Not in the short-term. You know, he’s still the world champion and he still goes back down. He can patch up the boat with two or three microphones in his hand. Unlike most other fighters, he’s got a different skillset.

“So no, he’s going to do real well, and frankly that invincibility factor traditionally has worked against guys. You know, there’s only been one heavyweight of all time that could fight and draw being invincible, and that was Mike Tyson. Even Jon Jones, as great as he is, until recently wasn’t able to draw very well. Anderson never drew until I came around – and I don’t mean to insert myself into this, but again, that’s just a number. So no, being invincible isn’t a tremendous drawing point, good competition is, somebody that’s exciting.

“So he’s going to do fine, but to say that he’s not going to take a dip, yeah I think he’ll take a little bit of a dip. But even with a dip he’ll still be the biggest star the company’s got right now.

He’s always been, he’s always been [The biggest star]. That’s never been true [that Ronda was a bigger star]. She’s a good friend, I don’t mean this negative, not even a tiny bit, but that’s never been true. I never understood why they have constantly said it. God bless them, it’s just simply not true. But Conor holds the gate records and he holds the pay-per-view records and she hasn’t touched him. And that’s the truth, regardless of what you might read in the media.